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A Preliminary Proposal
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Discussion of the Proposal
From bleland Fri Mar 16 07:52 PST 1990 Robert, Thank you for sending me a copy of your Preliminary Proposal. Yes, I am enthusiastic about moving forward with you. It should be noted that most countries which are not in close proximity to our Association for Progressive Communications network can access EcoNet through Telenet numbers in their countries. There is a charge for Telenet access through these numbers which is in the $18 - $25/hour range usually. Thank you again for your good work. Regards, Bill
From pthatcher Sat Mar 17 20:20 PST 1990
Rob - just a short note to thank you for your very thoughtful proposal of 15 March which is encouraging and stimulating. Almost certainly the UNCED secretariat will want to act on this quickly and we will get back to you and Bill Leland as soon as possible. But first the dust of the Prepcom has to settle and Maurice Strong has to assemble a core staff. Lucas Asuncao of UNDP has a copy and will be joining working on this on the inside of the UNCED secretariat with help from Frank Barabas of UN/DPI, Enzo Pulliatti of UNDP, Harris Gleckman of UN/CTC and others. We will be reacting to you soon, I hope next week. I'll be in Washington % WRI until the end of the month. Again, many thanks.
From gmarcus Sat Mar 17 20:33 PST 1990 Robert, Your proposal looks great. One item I couldn't find in your text would be: "It should be added that training in telecommunications is available for online delegates." Best, Genevieve
Date: 29 Mar 90 09:38:00 PST Rob...got your message and will review and get back to you. Also spoke briefly with Peter Thacher who commented very favorably on your work. I look forward to talking more. Bob [Loeb]
From gmarcus Sat Mar 31 17:59 PST 1990 Robert, Just a few quick thoughts prior to deeper study of the revised proposal. Another weakness of teleconferencing is the common "perceived" lack of access to computers with modems. In a more extensive proposal, the situation of those presently without access will need to be solved. There are several ways to address it. More headings and graphic differentiation could make your ideas clearer and easier to digest. Don't apologize for archival separation. It's essential. Just state it. I don't know the level of computer sophistication of those who will read the proposal, but it might be easier for non-initiates to understand "discussion areas" versus "libraries," "information areas," or other similar terms. The type of limited access conference you describe is "moderated" on IGC, not "facilitated." You might consider having both limited access and moderated access. The former will reduce the load on the moderator. Does Bill indicate that conference sharing between TCN and IGC is feasible? I hope at some point, the World Citizens' Assembly will connect up with your proposed conference.
Best,
From rpollard Apr 2 11:21 PST 1990 Genevieve, Thanks for your comments. I have been giving considerable thought to the question of access of those without computers -- had a good talk with Eileen Nic of International Org. of Consumer Unions on Thursday at a briefing on UNCED at FCNL (Friends Committee on National Legislation) last Thursday. Basically, we need to develop a structure wherein people with modems serve as communication nodes, and then distribute hard copies of information to those without computers (or without an inclination to use computer conferencing). Also the question of access for those in areas without ready access to phones -- primarily this would mean areas of Africa. I want to explore finding out about the feasibility of portable satellite dish terminals that could connect via geostationary satellites. I know the person to talk to about this, and will do that this week. It is definitely feasible to connect TCN with IGC. Bob Loeb of TCN called last week and he had been having conversations with Bill Leland and Geoff Sears about doing this. It turns out both parties thought they were waiting for the other, and I think the UNCED conference may be the impetus that is needed to establish that link, whether it be a generic link, or specific to the conference(s). Another aspect that I didn't get into with the proposal is its relationship to NGO organizing efforts around UNCED. The meetings I attended at the UN and the briefing at FCNL are an important step towards that, but there are a lot of issues that need to be resolved. Apparently, Chip Lindner announced at the Danube conference that the Center for Our Common Future has "been given the mandate" (by whom?) to organize the parallel conference in Brazil. It is going to be very important to structure things so that there is an inclusive participatory process throughout what develops. I would be very happy for WCA to be involved, and I welcome suggestions as to the form for that. As you probably know, Richard Jordan and Lisynka were at the meetings in NY. Where do you see the Alliance for Our Common Future fitting in -- is anything happening with that? By the way, I had another good talk with Peter Thacher on Thursday at the FCNL briefing, and he continues to be very enthusiastic about the suggestions I am developing. I will keep you posted as things develop. In the Light, Robert
Date: 05 Apr 90 08:12:00 PST Robert, I've had a chance to review your proposal and am interested to discuss your ideas further. The structure for the various conferences your propose is quite easy to implement on TCN and could in fact be integrated with UNISER virtually immediately. It is clear from your description that the distinction I've heard elsewhere between the UNISER "database" function and the "conferencing" function, really doesn't exist. The primary function of what you describe is information dissemination and the structure required is virtually identical to what is already in place with UNISER. Building on the existing base of information in UNISER ought to make it easier to attract users as well. This does not contradict your notion that users should not be overwhelmed by too much information, and that conferencing dialogue should be controlled so that it does not clutter important information. Such an approach is directly in line with the way we approach networking within the UN through UNISER and other related services. We have a variety of software capabilities that can be applied to specific information functions without affecting any other functions. These can all then be integrated via menus for ease of movement from one function to another. In this way, each function has it's own integrity, enabling users to seek out just the limited information they want at any given time in the most straightforward way possible. At the same time, menus provide very easy access to any other function, including those that may require different software capabilities or information resources, when and if this is useful. This helps attract the broadest range of users, who may have different needs, in that each can effectively tailor the service in differnt ways for their particular requirements. As you suggest in line with my comments over the phone, an expanded UNISER service could be made available via a "window" to ECONET (and for that matter, many other networks). We could also import services from ECONET and other networks as desired. My main question at this point is to understand better who would actually be looking at the conferences you propose and how often. Have you done any more detailed breakdown of the potential user organizations, who within these organizations would actually need the information and why, how many of these organizations have computers and modems, and how many could be expected to user their equipment for this purpose? Given the fact that the vast majority of what you propose is "read only" information distribution (which is right in line with what Peter Thacher told me), it might also be worth looking at providing at least some of this information in two additional modes so as to assure universal access, unlimited by access to computer technology. This is an area TCN specializes in as our focus is not on computer technology per se, but on the broadest possible access to information.
1. Voice bulletin board In addition to providing "listen only" access to information, these services can record information from callers (eg. names, addresses, etc) which could be used to send them more information. Similarly, the service could be used to poll caller opinion on specific issues to get feedback from a broad constituency that may not have access to computer technology.
2. Broadcast network Various distribution lists could be established for automated broadcasting to different groups. The system would be particularly useful for important communications that must be delivered in a timely fashion to everyone in a group, not just those with access to a given technology. I look forward to talking to you more about these ideas. Let me know what you think the next step is. Bob [Loeb]
From lassuncao Mon Apr 23 17:36 PDT 1990 NY 23 April Bill Leland and Bob Pollard, Further to discussions with Bob Loeb (TCN) and Pollard's proposal submitted to Peter Thacher, we at the UNCED Secretariat are finally in a position to reply to most of pending questions and propose concrete steps to "create" a UNCED electronic read- only conference. (The Secretary General of UNCED, Maurice Strong announced its establishment yesterday at the UN General Assembly.) First, let's start with the easy ones: we agree with Loeb that the secretariat's information outreach while aiming at reaching the largest number of people should consider using other means such voice bulletins and hardcopy material. However, the Secretary-General is still assembling his staff and we feel these information services will have to wait for when the secretariat is more appropriately staffed. Nevertheless, we understand that there is already some material that can (and should) be made available at this moment at least via electronic conferences. Moreover, with the cooperation of UN/DPI, TCN, Gemnet, Econet and yourselves we could start providing the preparation process of the 1992 UNCED with some transparency. In reference to an earlier question on who would be using/accessing/demanding such information: I have to tell you that at this very early stage we are already overwhelmed by requests for further and more detailed information on all the UNCED related activities. So, we feel it is time to act (globally by enabling governments, UN agencies, NGO's, individuals to dial locally into some existing material on the UNCED). P. Thacher, Barabas, UNDP staff and myself have agreed on adopting a phased approach at this stage. Pollard's proposal is seen as ideal, but not realistically attainable before the First Substantive Meeting of the Preparatory Committee to be held in Nairobi on 6-31 August. By then, the secretariat will be physically established in Geneva with its offices in New York and Nairobi operational and with the necessary staff to systematically feed a selection of UNCED conferences (pretty much following Pollard's proposal). Further to the announcement by Mr. Strong on Earth Day of the secretariat electronic conferencing services, our proposal is to have a read-only conference opened up on TCN with 4 to 5 basic papers with a brief introductory note and index for the sake of clarity. These papers will be available to Loeb, Leland/Pollard and Barabas on Tuesday. DECISIONS NEEDED from TCN and Econet:
for Loeb (TCN): Now, turning to the issue of accessing: I have just tried from an UNDP account to enter into UNISER. I got as far as the menu. No access exist to any UN database (PR, DHL, SPN) or to UN documents. Why? And how much would it cost for a UNDP staff or any UNISER user to have access to all these services? In creating UNCED as a new item on this menu, can it be "open" free of charge at least initially as we have been discussing? for ECONET: How soon you can create an initial UNCED conference? I understand from Enzo Puliatti that public conferences can be created rather easily. How much information you are ready to receive this week to open the conference? Can we the conference immediately available to all IGC nodes, namely Alternex, Greenet, Nicarao, Web, etc. If not, how soon? I would appreciate hearing from you as soon as possible. Happy Earth Year. Sincerely, Lucas Assuncao
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From bleland Tue Apr 24 00:47 PDT 1990 Lucas, Thanks for your message. I endorse your approach entirely. As soon as I receive the initial information to be posted to an EcoNet public conference, I will create the conference, ensure that it is networked to our affiliated networks, and post the information in appropriate topics within the conference. We should be able to do this within 24 hours after receiving the information. We suggest that the first topic be a statement which introduces the conference, describing the intent of the conference, what information a user can expect to find, and how they should use the conference and its information. We are pleased to be working on this in collaboration with you and TCN. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do.
Regards,
From lassuncao Tue Apr 24 05:10 PDT 1990 PRESS RELEASE (distributed on Monday 23 April)
Secretary-General of the UN Conference of Environment and On Earth Day 1990 (22 April), the Secretary-General of the United Nations Conference of Environment and Development, Maurice Strong, announced that the Conference Secretariat will be providing to all interested parties electronic accessible information related to the preparatory work for the 1992 UN Conference. The Secretary-General of the UNCED acknowledged the growing role of electronic data processing and communications and its potential contribution to sustainable development, and announced the beginning of a UNCED "Global Electronic Network" by which the UNCED secretariat will keep all interested parties informed of the preparations for the 1992 Conference. Using systems that have been developed by the UN Department of Public Information, but on a larger scale than ever before, the UNCED secretariat in Geneva will "post" information on publicly-accessible electronic bulletin boards of the sort being used world-wide in recent years. Initially, this service will consist of background information --such as the text of pertinent resolutions of the UN General Assembly setting up the 1992 Conference and PrepCom decisions -- as well as information about scheduled meetings and substantive matters concerning the preparatory process, including, for example, relevant statements at the organizational session of the all-nation Preparatory Committee. As the Secretariat assembles its staff additional information will be routinely posted about upcoming events and documents being prepared for submission to the all-nation Preparatory Committee, which holds its first substantive session in Nairobi starting 6 August. Depending on response, and interest shown, additional categories of information will be supplied electronically in such a way as to encourage the broadest access to electronic "conferencing". The initial access to this system will be through networks such as Telecommunication Cooperative Network (TCN) and EcoNet which have existing arrangements to enable their members to read material posted by the UN, with special menus being created for matters related to UNCED. The secretariat intends to facilitate access not only by those already accustomed to this technique, but to broaden access throughout the developing regions of the world, and in languages in addition to english. To do this it will take advantage of projects supported by the UN Development Programme (UNDP) to promote affordable access for users in developing countries, and make information available to the UNDP-sponsored "Sustainable Development Network" recently announced by Administrator William Draper. In coordination with UNDP and IMO, the UNCED Secretariat will also be exploring existing satellite systems, such InmarSat and PeaceSat, to enable access to UNCED electronic conferences by those located in remote areas of the globe where this is otherwise difficult and costly. Mr. Maurice Strong also said the time has come to explore arrangements for a truly international earth observing satellite system. HOW YOU CAN USE THIS SERVICE: Dial Locally, Act Globally If you have a personal computer, a modem and access through telephone to an electronic network, you can share information, pool resources and be kept abreast of future events related to the UN Conference of Environment and Development to be convened in Brazil in 1992. What do you need?? 1. You need a computer, any brand will work, such as IBM, IBM clone, Apple, MacIntosh, Epson, etc. 2. You need a telecommunications software program (most of them come free-of-charge with your modem) that will run on your computer, allowing you to use a modem (a computer accessory) to make the telephone call. 3. You will need a modem. Who to contact in order to have access to electronic networks?? 4. If you are already have access to TCN via a UN agency, Mission, UN Department, etc., just contact:
Telecommunications Cooperative Network TCN will give you access to the UNISER menu in which UNCED Bulletin Board are announced. 5. If you are not on TCN, please contact any of the following networks at your convenience. All networks are designed to be easy and quick to use for those who don't know much about computers, and can't spend a lot of time learning about them. All of them also offer user support on the end of a phone during office hours and some evenings.
USA: or
Peacenet / Econet
UK:
Canada:
Sweden:
Nicaragua:
Brazil:
Australia: 6. If you are on any other system please call Econet or TCN for information on gateways to/from your system. 7. Information on local access from other countries can also be obtained from local PTT's.
From lassuncao Sat Apr 28 10:24 PDT 1990 Dear Bob, Thanks for your comments and suggestions for further developments related to the en.unced. I definitely support the opening of "affiliated" conferences to enable active interaction among ngo's, interest groups and individuals. That's the idea: to trigger the widest participation possible. At the same time, it's crucial that an official read only is distributed by the UNCED Secretariat to several electronic networks. This will allow for a institutional memory on the 1992 UNCED process and makes it easy- to-join-in by new user at any point in time. The idea of having the Center for the Common Future as a focal point seems interesting, but access should also be open to any ngo including those from developing countries. So work is needed to make this effective. Well, I am going to Geneva on Monday for two weeks, come back to New York by May 18 and then move to Geneva by early June for two years. So soon I will be in touch with you possibly through Greenet. In the meantime I believe Peter Thacher will also contact you to comment on your suggestions. Once again thanks Lucas Assuncao
To: lassuncao Lucas, Thanks for your response to my comments. On the role of the Centre for Our Common Future, I did not mean to imply that they should be the focal point, rather that they need to be involved -- and that they need to get on line. I had talked with Chip about getting on line when he was in Washington in January, and he seemed open, but I sense that he needs some hands on support to overcome an initial resistance to the unfamiliar. Perhaps when you are in Geneva, you could give them a nudge towards getting on line. The Centre's active involvement in and support for the on-line conferences could be helpful in getting the word out to the large group of NGOs they have been working with in relationship to the Brundtland Report. I also understand that following the Vancouver meetings last month, the Centre perceives itself as having a mandate to play an active role in planning for NGO involvement in 1992. If so, it becomes especially important -- at least from a concern with the inclusiveness of the NGO participation -- that they get the word out via electronic conferencing so that there is widespread awareness of and access to their planning process. Also, I feel that a lot of the information that the Centre disseminates via the Brundtland Bulletin might be more effectively and timely disseminated via electronic conferencing. Since sending my response yesterday, I have been thinking a lot more about the need for ways of creating effective access among NGOs to the on-line UNCED information and conferences. It seems that it would be very useful to identify at least one initial organization within each country that would take on the responsibility for downloading and making available that information within the country, as well as getting the word out about the availability of on-line access. I would welcome any thoughts as to which organizations might play such a role in Europe and elsewhere. I agree with you on the importance of creating access to the read-only conferences on as broad a representation of networks as possible. From my earlier conversations with Bob Loeb of TCN, I got the impression that he may be able to play a significant facilitating role in that step of the process. I look forward to keeping in touch with you. Robert
To: lassuncao pthacher beland Dear Lucas, Peter, Bill, Bob and other friends, It's great to see this electronic conference, EN.UNCED, really happening, and I was very happy to see the press release from Maurice Strong. I look forward to continuing to play an active role in facilitating the development of the evolving set of electronic conferences relating to UNCED. Lucas, I recognize the need for the official UNCED electronic conferences to be on a read-only basis, however, at the same time -- from an NGO perspective -- I expect to continue to be a strong advocate of participatory opportunities. In response to your question on my facilitating role, I would like to focus most of my effort into developing the participatory component, while continuing to be attentive to optimal ways of structuring the read-only conferences. It seems that it would be helpful to make clear distinctions between the official read-only conferences of the UNCED Secretariat and the participatory NGO/public conferences. My suggestion is that we reserve the name UNCED for the official conferences, and use UNCED-NGO-IPPCS (for Information, Public Participation & Communication System) for the participatory ones. As I have addressed in my "United Nations Conference on Environment and Development Electronic Conferencing Proposal" (that I am presuming Peter has forwarded to you), from an NGO perspective, there is a need for an NGO forum to share responses and comments on the official documents that are posted in the read-only conferences; there is a further need for a some kind of representative NGO group to review and synthesize these comments, and disseminate them in an accessible format among the NGO community (however that is defined). As I noted above, I am interested in developing a set of conferences that would fall under the general title of EN.UNCED-NGO-IPPCS. As you can see from my system of naming in this and my earlier proposal, I have a preference for a hierarchical conference naming system that maintains a fairly narrow focus for each conference area. By the way, Bob, I have not yet got onto TCN to see how your menu system works, but as I have noted elsewhere, that would seem to be an ideal way to manage the type of conference structure that I envision.
EN.UNCED-NGO-IPPCS.DESIGN Incidentally, while the focus would be on developing an IPPCS for UNCED, it would be my hope and expectation that the model and structure we would develop would have applicability in many other settings -- both in other global contexts, as well as in the development of local, regional and national IPPCSs
EN.UNCED-NGO-IPPCS.OUTREACH A focussed effort in this respect, and especially one that is grounded in tangible experience, would be invaluable. In correspondence with me on my proposals for what I am now calling the UNCED IPPCS, Bob Loeb has on several occasions raised questions as to exactly who, and how many, the constituency is. Clearly the NGO community involved in preparations for UNCED is a key element of the constituency; and given the role to date of the Centre for Our Common Future in working with parts of the NGO community, attention certainly needs to be paid to involving the Centre in the IPPCS.
EN.UNCED-NGO-IPPCS.REPORTS I find that I am much more motivated to respond or comment on such documents, if I know that the response is not just seen by the creator of the document but is accessible to any other interested parties with access to the conference. Besides, I don't believe that I am alone in finding it so much easier to jot down some quick comments on computer and send them via e-mail, than it is to go through the process of printing a letter, making photocopies, making up envelopes, etc.
EN.UNCED-NGO-IPPCS.TRAINING
Who are we? While recognizing that we all tend to wear several hats, as I began to compile a list of who we are, I noticed that we tend to fit into one of three principal groupings: UNCED Secretariat and/or UNDP; Electronic Networks; and non-government organizations. While these groupings may be obvious, I point this out to clarify that there are distinct constituencies even among us, and that we may need to pay attention to the level of participation form each of these groups -- as well as others that should be included. Incidentally, considering these groupings makes it very clear that there is a major task of outreach to the NGO community.
I have sent a FAX copy of this response, with Maurice Strong's press release and my earlier proposal, to the Quaker United Nations Office in New York for consideration at a Monday meeting of the NGO Development Committee that will be considering next steps for NGOs. I will also be making available pertinent materials on the UNCED IPPCS proposals for an upcoming NGO working meeting "To decide what can and must be done now and who will take responsibility for action in preparation for the 1992 UNCED" that will be held in Washington DC at the Friends Committee on National Legislation on May 17. I am also forwarding a copy of this to the Centre for Our Common Future (FAX:01141227385046)
From jpasztor Mon Apr 30 08:30 PDT 1990 Robert, I read with interest your proposal concerning getting the NGO's involved in a two-way process. I very much agree that this is a very important element in the whole preparatory process. I have just a few minor points at this stage: 1. The involvement of the Center for Our Common Future will be essential, although they may not necessarily act as the only focal point. The UNCED secretariat will share the same office building with the Center. This should help considerably our cooperation, and getting the Center on line in terms of electronic conferencing. I will discuss this with Chip Lindner. 2. While getting the NGO input is very important, at this initial stage of the preparations (next 3 months), we must be very careful not to spread ourselves (the very small, and not yet fully formed UNCED secretariat) too thin. We must concentrate our energies to the preparation of the 1st Meeting of the PrepCom in Nairobi (August). This does mean that during the next months we must concentrate on the "official read-only" conference. 3. Having said this, I support your approach of developing a set of conferences, as described in your April 27 memo. I will be pleased to work with you in developing further the different conferences, both in terms of contents and format. A lot of this will depend on how we set up our own (UNCED) Global Environment Information system to feed the preparatory process. Will keep you informed on this.
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